GrandVJ 1.5 beta - Feedback and Bug reports

[absentcinema]

absentcinema:

The tooltip will be fixed in the final version of GrandVJ 1.5

As the feature set is now fixed for this version, we won't change the way the transitions work in GrandVJ 1.5.
However, if you give me some detailed examples about how this feature could be used in Mixer mode, we could think about improving it in a next version.

Essentially, the way transitions would fit best into my own personal workflow would be to be able to specify a transition for individual clips, then have those transitions executed when the layer play/stop toggle is used (maybe if the layer is set to A/B this transition is overrided). Like how they work in synth mode essentially. For me ideally I'd like synth and mixer mode to be combined, I'd like the flexibility of being able to use methods from both.

[absentcinema]

Another example of combing synth/mixer is having a latch toggle for each layer. So specified layers could be used for playing in unlatched synth style without resorting to killing the layer between triggering clips.

[hypnotica]

GrandVJ Beta 2 :

Interface:
-fix required on mixing tab the mixing presets pull down too much spacing.
- any chance to add simple code enable/disable caption bar option in menu? Most software try to give better look in skin mode like wmp or mc ...

Question on the test audio connect button causes interface not to re-size as much like the 1.2. Is this button be removed and put in the menu?

Like usual Master preview and layer preview image are not centered.

Transition Circle Open / Close looks more like oval or ellipse. I like but in certain case might need the real circle.

There a new Source called Network Stream 1 it doesn't do any thing. Nothing to config it. What is it for and how will it function?

[jcbklyny]

Still NO AUDIO from MPG files since DEV version.

Beta 1 and Beta 2 - the same. No audio from MPG


- John

[vostek]

Unfortunately I'm still having trouble with the ArkaosConnect VST, but it seems to be closer to success than with beta 1!
With beta2 I am now able to select the ArkaosVST host from the preferences in GVJ (though it is still saying 'searching for hosts...' to the right of the drop down box). However, back in FL Studio (the new version 10 that was released a day or two ago) the VST plugin is still saying 'number of connections: 0' and the 'connected' light is still not illuminated. I was able to route the MIDI though, and I have some automation on CCs that are mapped to parameters in GVJ, so the 'MIDI' indicator does light up in the plugin, but it's still not sending anything to GVJ. Am I missing something, or possibly another bug? Let me know if I can provide more information...

[ravenmoon]

tested with ableton arkaos vst connect. Found that Grand VJ interface lock up after a few minutes of audio bass effect.

[SHARYN]

SO the new beta works (now the plug in is called Connect) connection did work and I can hear audio so that is good. I do seem to find that keeping the connection (all running on same pc) can be an issue. Also even though I was able to reduce the volume from the plugin coming into VJ there is some amount of stuttering.. BUT definitely works much better than in the first version

Great work

Sharyn

[SHARYN]

Couple of things re VST CONNECT beta 2
the exe for grandvj in the download still shows beta1, but the vst is not arkaos connect

I have tested a few configurations

One is under win7/32 both GVJBeta2 and Virtual DJ on same machine, there is stuttering on the audio feed, all levels respond to changes, but looks like packets are getting dropped or corrupted?

Thinking it might be cpu issue I then tested with GVBeta 2 on Win7 /32 and VIrtual DJ on win7/64, the plug in arkaos connect finds other machine correctly (need to have the Virtual DJ with Arkaos Connect up first, but finds it and sends audio, but again stuttering (I moved audio buffer size up to 2048, from 1024, some improvement, buffer 512 worse, but changing buffer does on occasion crash GVbeta 2


Decided to move other way around (I have two licensed copies of GVJ and VIrtual Dj, with GVJ on the morepowerful machine, but still have the stuttering problem

I did notice that it seems that you need to go into preferences and test audio at least once to have the GVJ tool bar audio test to work. IF you are in preferences, then you cannot alter the audio levels on input or output, but after closing works


Definitely the connection between the plugin and GVJ is more stable (in beta1 the connection would keep disappearing from the preferences page going back to 0 connections, needing to be re selected, this seems to now work in beta2

It does look like in the plug in window on virtual dj, that the connections does not respond to loosing the connection, I shut down GVJ and it still showed connection (but it might just take more time)

So at this point outside of the stuttering which is quite noticeable, things are much better

Since I have never tried to control a display on GVj via audio, can you possible post a file that will when played with the plugin activated respond to the audio feed?

Perhaps more description as to actually how to set up the video file for audio control??

Sharyn

[SHARYN]

Forgot to mention connection speed set to highest in all cases

Sharyn

[hypnotica]

Notice when there a usb dropout and reconnect the software won't trigger even when reloading midi mapping. Any chance to have a auto reinitialize midi device without having restart the app?

Question an effect on upper layer without visual when assigning A or B shouldn't it affects only the channel i tried every copy modes (might need an extra one for this case!). Can there an option for AB linking or should it be a default function then what is current? This way you can assign more effects to a single clip just by putting fx on other layers and setting linking to A or B.

Also there's a missing function A B Cross fader. Since fade got time delay. Now it would be needing a Auto button or extra button next to the 8 transition for the function when press Full A or B it auto cross fade and stay till cross fader is used again. Abit like Panasonic video mixer with auto button

Will Transition effect have more values like Slide has only texture. It should have the X Y Z so that could slide Right to Left or opposite. Up down zoom in out...

Matrix Bank Right Arrow and Left Arrow click at the end of the banks should loop back first and end when using mouse . Right now just ends.

Transition Spreading Blinds very nice. When Density value 0 and Orientation is at 45 degree cross there a glitch a certain point of the cross fader.

Transition Circles: An idea to add value scale, multiply, Random Position on sliders. It would give it a movement. For future version is would work on tempo/audio function.

PS any chance to add Transition loader to external folder for png's ? Or just and open transition where you can just drag imge into the icon of that custom one?

[FrankySpanky]

Could you please built in the Clip Thumbnail Refresh function into the final version?

[Quentin]

Thank you for all your feedbacks. All ideas are noted and will be discussed.

A general remark : if the sound in GrandVJ through ArKaos Connect is jerky, try first to change the “connection speed” in preferences menu/ArKaos Connect. The “highest” value will often create glitches, the normal value should work for a vast majority of configurations.

Vostek:
ArKaos Connect should work with FL studio 10. What is your configuration? (OS) . What buffer size do you use in FL ?

Sharyn :
you can use any video clip and add “Sound controlled” effect (for the moment there are just 2 bass zoom) or you can use Live Generators that will react to the sounds.

hypnotica :
When you set an effect on a upper layer, it actually does affect channel A or B only, if a destination deck is selected.
New transitions will be present in the final version, with more parameters.

[hypnotica]

hypnotica :
When you set an effect on a upper layer, it actually does affect channel A or B only, if a destination deck is selected.
New transitions will be present in the final version, with more parameters.

Here's an example: layer 1 background layer 2 Half size visual selected B Layer 3 Effect comic selected B. Problem is layer 1 background gets affected by the effect on layer 3. It would be really nice to have the third option in this case selected only affect selected without loosing layer 1 background that cannot be on A.

[tvdz]

Thanks a lot for the feedback!

It is indeed difficult to do this in the current version (a layer with only an effect will take always the full previous layer as its source). Currently the only solution is to put the effect really on the visual layer itself (but currently you cannot put 2 effects on a layer...).

But we have this issue already a long time on our minds and you can expect a nice solution soon.

hypnotica :
When you set an effect on a upper layer, it actually does affect channel A or B only, if a destination deck is selected.
New transitions will be present in the final version, with more parameters.

Here's an example: layer 1 background layer 2 Half size visual selected B Layer 3 Effect comic selected B. Problem is layer 1 background gets affected by the effect on layer 3. It would be really nice to have the third option in this case selected only affect selected without loosing layer 1 background that cannot be on A.

[hypnotica]

Thank's for the quick reply.

Feature question on New Preview Tab PC version. Could the preview have a stand alone version or command line option to grandvj for shell integration to preview. If possible then extract like matrix and keyboard would be great for that.