SOLVED!!! Arkaos + LedMapper + Artnet device HELP!!!

[indexs[LV]]

Yestarday i finally got my Artnet device and today i have started to test it, but i have to ask for help!!

I have small problem i`m really close to output video from arkaos with Ledmapper extension using Artnet device!

1) I have activated the Ledmapper on Arkaos with new serial
2) Opened Led Mapper loaded new JPG image
3) Added new device, because (EUROLITE LED BAR 648/5 RGB) wasn`t in the list, added channels from 1 till 22

this parts is working fine and i get the image part from whole JPG, on the leds!

4) Then i opened saved file in Arkaos at the new option for Ledmapper, select the activation check box and press OK. (seems to be working)

But here comes the sticky part - i can`t get the led bar work in arkaos, it`s showing the image part from Led Mapper, also when i go full screen!
The Led Mapper is Closed!

Any options?

I`m using:

Arkaos with DMX 3.6.1 + ArKaos LED Mapper 1.2 FC1

[nick c]

the first thing you should do, is upgrade to 3,6,5 beta4, as it has a better engine.

Then try again.

cheers

[indexs[LV]]

the first thing you should do, is upgrade to 3,6,5 beta4, as it has a better engine.

Then try again.

cheers

OK!

As soon i get some resultes i try to give feedback!

THX

[indexs[LV]]

I made the upgrade to Arkaos VJ DMX 3.6.5 Beta4, but it looks like the Enttec device hung when i close Ledmapper the image is still on the leds.

I think on the point i exit the Ledmapper it must go to blackout!?!

Any other options?

[nick c]

so you have the enttec usb pro device??

have you setup which artnet universe you are going to use? as atnet has 15 universes (15 x 512)?

I have not tryed the led mapper extension. but i know phased has used it.so contact him or contact m-,-m on the forum. they will be able to help you a little more. in the mean time i will have a go geting it to work with the LED mapper demo, and get back to you, i will do it later today.

cheers

[indexs[LV]]

so you have the enttec usb pro device??

No i have this one:

http://www.enttec.com/index.php?main_me ... escription

I have made some photos with my phone so u can understand better what i ment, but i will do this later because i have use my home PC with card reader!

THX!!!

[indexs[LV]]

Here is the photo i promised (combinatet):




I was thinking is it actually possible that:
Enttec USB Pro
is conflicting with
Enttec DMX over ethernet "ODE"

because i have bouth of them...

[nick c]

that is interesting as you are useing the network conection one, on a cat5 conector. I am not sure about that unit, as arkaos recomend the usb unit, which ae the units i have.

It looks like there maybe a conflict (not sure), i would have to look into that, to see how the units you have work. it might be an artnet device and need to be setup properly.

I know that arkaos has the ability to read all the artnet universe data at the same time (omni) for the control of arkaos. so you might need to setup which universe arkaos lisens to for control, and which universes it outputs to.

cheers

[nick c]

As i thought it is an artnet device.

Down load Artistic licences DMX workshop prorgrame (free). install it on the machines you use. and use it to veiw incomming and outgoing data. very handy indeed, to check that you are transmitting and recieveing on the right universes.

secondly you will need to decide which universe to use for control, and which universe to output to LED units.

Artnet universes start a 0-14 = 15 universes (so artnet 0 is a DMX universe)

try that out and them get back to me.

cheers

[nick c]

ok i have just had a quick look through the LED mapper manual.

And it looks to me like you make the LED map, then save the file. gointo arkaos and find the led mapper preferences and the let it which map file you want to use ( the one you made). so it looks like you do not have the led mapper programme running at the same time.

the best thing to do is read the manual!!

cheers

[nick c]

and in the dmx setup, do not use the enttec dmx usb or pro, just set it to artnet. your units are just seen as artnet devices.

cheers

[indexs[LV]]

and in the dmx setup, do not use the enttec dmx usb or pro, just set it to artnet. your units are just seen as artnet devices.

cheers

Ok ill try the Artistic licenses DMX workshop prorgram, but it`s would be stupid if DMX USB Pro will conflict with Artnet Enttec device, because im controlling my video server from my light control device, so the LED`s used by artnet have they own adreses so say independent!

I`ll tray to go harder with configuration for both of the devices after i have some results for out putting video with artnet!!

As soon as possible i give some feedback!

THX for advice!!!

[nick c]

your blue enttec units in the photograph, are not the usb pro device in the dmx preference.

your units are useing artnet, so forget about the enttec usb device option within arkaos. you are getting confused becauce they are made by the same manufacturer.

So set arkaos to lisen to artnet, not usb devives.

cheers

[indexs[LV]]

ok i have just had a quick look through the LED mapper manual.

And it looks to me like you make the LED map, then save the file. gointo arkaos and find the led mapper preferences and the let it which map file you want to use ( the one you made). so it looks like you do not have the led mapper programme running at the same time.

the best thing to do is read the manual!!

cheers

OK here i im with test results:

the best thing to do is read the manual!!

"Been there, done that got a t-short " - this was the first thing i done before even start to connect artnet devise to my PC

I have made screen shot to make easy for you to understand me:


1) I have configured Artnet "Enttec - ODE" device


2) I have made configuration for Eurolite LED BAR


3) I have connected 2 (two) LED BAR`s ao i put up 2 (two) devices
First device startring adres is 1
Second device starting adres is 25


4) When i have finished with configuration i have saved the config to file:


5) In arkaos opened LedMapper options and loaded the new file to arkaos:


6) The DMX Setup i have chosen Artnet protocol:


7) OK it seems to finished with configuration:
I have started Arkaos in full screen: CTRL+A

also i have instaled and running the program u told me to use for testing artnet:


It looks like the data is transmitting ok!


The problem seeem to the same - i have the ledbars displaying the image from Ledmapper configurator...
But i thik when i close Ledmapper configurator then the ledbars must turn to blackout but they not so im out of ideas...

[indexs[LV]]

I was going thrue the DMX-Workshop program and this was interesting:



Then i had my LedMapper configuration lunched the rate of "Hz" jumped over the 45Hz but when i was using Arkaos the Hz rate droped down under 45 Hz

This might be the problem???


p.s. for "nick c" I can grant Access on my Computer so if whan to check the setting your self

[nick c]

hi indexs [LV]

i have had a vey quick look at the info you sent, but i am not in my office over the weekend, so i do not have all the fact infront of me. so i will have a go at what i see/remember for now, and get back to you on monday/tuesday.

firstly, i assumed that maybe your english was not that good, so had not been able to read the manual properly, because you are from latvia, but i was very wrong.

at a quick glance, it seems to me that you are transmitting and receiveing on the same artnet channels. so i would change the universes, in the arkaos DMX properties and the LED mapper extension. arkaos to receive on universe one. and LED mapper to transmit on 2. everything has the same artnet device number / name as well, and it looks like you can name the units anything you want. so i would try to give the units diferent names. which might help you, when you are configueing the system. just something to try.

The LED unit could be staying on with the image showing, because the LED units are LTP (latest takes presidence), so they could be waiting for a comand, to dimme / blackout or change colour, which arkaos is not doing.


Anyway i will look into this some more, as it has been a while since i have setup arkaos to run on artnet control. and get back to you.

If you use skype, you could always call me and we could talk in person. it might be quicker. the new skype beta, has a screen / desktop shareing function. which could help.

cheers

[indexs[LV]]

Hi nick c!

It would be great if we can arrange that!

I will be back in office at Wednesday, because i need set up some installations for one party, so i will be busy for 2 day`s.

So what time is the best for you can available for chat and taking a look on the Led Mapper and Arkaos?

Let me know!

My skype name is indexs, i suppose i`m the only one indexs in Latvia so you will have no problem to find me.

[Manuel]

Hi,

I am sorry to say that Nick c is plain wrong.

The DMX setup within ArKaos vj DMX configures the dmx INPUT wich is used to control ArKaos form your lightingdesk. You need to use Enttec DMX USB setting in the dmx config box within ArKaos Vj DMX.

The dmx over Artnet OUTPUT is configured in the ledmapper editor. It seems strange that you can see the background image in the ledmapper editor but cant see your video output from ArKaos vj. Normaly your network settings are wrong if you do not output anything... A solution could be that you import the file you make with the ledmapper in ArKaos 3.6.1, import the video material you want to use, save and go to ArKaos 3.5.4 (i dont know exactly witch version number. The latest beta release) I noticed that you cant edit the led settings in the beta. Therefore you should make your projectfile in 3.5.1 and open it in the beta.

I have had much problems with the Enttec ODE and stil have. Enttec has send me en new PCB to put into the box and still my ode does not work properly. I have had it working a few times to drive a parcan matrix but my latest problem is to use the dmx input. It does not want to work

You seem to have the latest firmware and the rest of your config seems ok to.
I have had the Artnet working numerous times but on the Enttec device its very tricky. Normaly I use a 8 port node from ELC: dmXLAN node8. And it works very good...

If this does not help then i suggest that you find a networking baaad med Or buy a ELC node. NEVER give someone you meet on a forum acces to your computer...

[nick c]

Wait a minute, lets go ver this.

That is exactly what is was saying!!!!!

The enttec units in the dmx setup are the usb units, not to be confused with your ethernet enttec units!!!! so if you want to control arkaos from a artnet source you would use the artnet option. and when i say control i mean from a lighting desk that can output artnet!!!!

AS i said i have not used the LED mapper and all i kow about how it works is what i told you i have read in the manual. There is an option to load a saved LED mapper file from LED mapper.

What i was trying to point out to you, is that it can get very confuseing when you want to control arkaos from an artnet source and also trying to output artnet through the LED mapper extension at the same time.

there is sum difference in the way different companies aproach the way they number the artnet universes ( or used to be). and that is why dmxwork shop allow you to see which direction the information is traveling in.

Well you are still haveing problems trying to transmite and recieve artnet at the same time. and as i said you seem to have setup your arkaos to lisen to subnet 0 universe 0, as well as have setup your led mapper transmit on universee to subnet 0 universe 0. I do not believe you can transmit and receive on the same subnet and universes with in arkaos.

Unless your pic's you posted are wrong.

I could be wrong, but why not try it.

cheers for the abuse.

[nick c]

i will try to explain what i am seeing in your pic's.

in arkaos dmx setuo pic (whick is to control arkaos from a artnet outputting lighting desk) you hare a subnet mask of 0 and universe 0.

In the LED mapper you have set the LED mapper file (output artnet to LED fixtures) to subnet 0 and universe 0.

So there wil be a conflict, at present you have arkaos lisening to artnet that will be comming from the LED maper extension. which means you are running in a loop, without control from a lihjting desk.

you need to be doing these two seperate actions (transmit and recieve) on two different universes. control of arkaos comming in on one universe and out from the maper extension on another univere.

I am just going on the pic's you have posted.

i hope this makes t a little clearer.

cheers

[indexs[LV]]

Here comes the right way to connect Arkaos VJ DMX + LedMapper configurations "IMPORTANT":

So in forums we had long conversations about - how to run ledmapper

i had long talk with arkaos developer Pierre (cool guy) so he solved the problem!

So the baisic configuration if you r network config:

Exapmle:

PC

IP 192.168.1.2
Submet mask: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: 192.168.1.1

ENTTEC_ODE_BOX_1
IP 192.168.1.3


So if u use your own network with your own configurations u must add arkaos IP adresses which are mentioned in arkaos LED mapper configuration

p.s. don`t forget the SUB-NET and UNIVERSE setup bouth of them must have number 15

IMG 1


So u can see the bottom of image there is:

Local IP address (information only):
Your IP should be 2.0.0.xxx, IP mask 255.0.0.0

It means you should use this IP configuration to!

Here it is how it`s done:

First add your IP adreses to your network card configuration:

IMG 2


Then click Button Advanced - another window will pop-up

IMG 3


Next you must click button Add.. under IP adress configuratin window to add the adrese to run the arkaos VJ DMX + LedMapper

i have used this configuration

This is all if u have any questions about config, just contact me!